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Diagnosing Autism in Girls

Posted by Aspie Girl at 04:38 PM on July 09, 2009

Whenever I have mentioned Asperger's or Autism to any of my friends or family, I am usually met with reactions like, "You are way to talkative to be autistic." or "You don't have the flat voice that people with Asperger's have." While it is true that many people with Asperger's are shy and reserved and speak in a monotonous way, there are plenty of us out there who do not seem to fit this stereotype at all. I have always had a severe issue with talking. I never seem to know if someone is bored, in a hurry, trying to change the subject or are simply not interested. It is less of a problem of not wanting to talk and more of a problem of not understanding the cues to regulate a conversation. If I am asked by a clerk at the supermarket "how are you today", I often puzzle over knowing how much of an answer I am really supposed to give. Should I simply say that I am fine or should I really tell them how I feel? I never seem to know and usually end up saying too much. Small talk usually ends up as "big talk" by the time I am finished with it and Lord help the poor soul who happens to ask me about something that is related to an area of "special interest". They'll never get me to shut up! Another issue that I have is with volume. I have a very loud and booming voice that carries well. I absolutely can't stand it when people tell me to lower my voice. It just isn't natural for me to speak any softer. I get accused of having a "tone" or "yelling" all the time when in reality I am excited or very passionate about what I am saying. It is almost never my intention to yell or take a tone. It all leaves me feeling very frustrated and confused and I feel self concious every time that I speak. I get the feeling that when people think of me that "annoying" is a word that may come to mind, but certainly not "autistic".


As I have advanced in years, I have aquired more and more skill in social settings. It was much more obvious when I was a child that there were "issues". I would talk out of turn in class and had trouble staying in my seat. My desk was positioned right next to the teachers for most of elementary school and occasionally I was even relocated to the hallway. I was not very good at getting other children to play with me and subsequently spent a good deal of time studying the other kids on the playground trying to figure out why they were able to get playmates while I was not. As a result, I could always be found lurking on the perimeter of the playground and was frequently accused of staring at people. I don't think that it ever occured to anyone that there might be a problem back in 1980. Today, perhaps someone would have noticed the troubles I was having at school. It is difficult to say because girls are still under diagnosed in the autistic spectrum.


The following link is for an ABC News clip called "Diagnosing Girls' Autism" that aired January 24, 2008. When I watched this, I immediately saw myself (as well as my daughter) in the little girl featured in the video.


http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=4181242



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Reply mgran
06:10 PM on July 17, 2009
I get told that I'm too talkative, and that my voice is too expressive for me to be aspie or autie. (Despite my having been diagnosed, despite the fact that I didn't talk until I was nearly four ... after my first word under a year I just shut up for the next three.) But I do find speaking hard. I'm blessed in a way that I'm so short sighted. If I'm anxious in a conversation, I can take my glasses off and fiddle with them, so I don't have to make eye contact. Also, my Mum taught me tricks, to fake eye contact, and we had role playing conversations. She also enrolled me in a drama class, where I was taught how to "emote".

This isn't to say that I'm fake when I do it now, but I did have to learn it consciously.

I always find it hard to judge when to say something in a conversation. When do people jump in and say something? I don't want to be rude, but equally, you have to keep the conversation going. It always feels like I'm juggling many different things when I'm talking to people.

Here's the list:
Make appropriate eye contact.
Express interest, so they know you're listening... affirmative noises like "uhhu," or little phrases like, "I see," "really?" etc help here.
Respond to comments in an appropriate way... but don't get carried away and rabbit on about your own stuff, even if you think there's an opening.
Don't stim.
Don't humm to yourself or suck your teeth, or try to clean them with a strand of hair.
Don't go off on tangents.
Don't drift off, or eventually the other person will notice that you're not listening.

There's a whole bunch of other rules, but these are the ones that most come up.

So, I may "sound" okay, and not flat and monotonous, but conversation is still a struggle. I HAVE to write a script before I phone anyone up. And I usually close my eyes when talking on the phone... it's the only way I can keep focussed on the conversation.
Reply Aspie Girl
05:38 PM on July 20, 2009
mgran, I think it is really interesting that you and your mom did roll playing together. That must have helped a lot.

I also have to plan what I am going to say before talking on the phone or meeting with someone. When I don't have advance warning, I end up just talking too much. I am very talkative and have a hard time knowing when to stop. I don't always get that someone else wants to talk or that maybe they need to go or whatever the case may be..... I just miss it most of the time.

I love the bit about flossing your teeth with your hair! That is hysterical!!
Reply Moon_18
11:15 PM on October 02, 2009
it took me 18 years to be diagnosed and some people were shocked when it was confirmed that i do have Aspergers. My younger brother has Aspergers to a high degree, while mine is mild but it does affect my life, espeically now that i've started college. I'm very emotional, to the point where its disruptive to my life quiet a lot. I often have to remind myself to let whoever i'm talking to have a turn and talk about what they want, and to remember to inquire how they are and let them put in their voice. I was never obsessed with one thing, my topics changed, but i would get obsessed with things for a few weeks or months at a time then i would find a new topic. Get every book i could find, google it, and all sorts of stuff. I'm still not sure how to feel exactly about all this. there's a lot more to it, but its so hidden no one sees it. I don't mean to be rude or anything but people will take it like that. I try so hard to be nice and friendly, but i feel like i come off as something else, but what exactly i dont know. I'm just confused with everything....i've gone completely off topic from what i started on didn't i? I do that too....heh...
Reply maji
06:11 AM on December 18, 2009
Mgran: Don't humm to yourself or suck your teeth, or try to clean them with a strand of hair.
Moon: but i feel like i come off as something else, but what exactly i dont know. I'm just confused with everything.

Now I know exactly why my friend was annoyed with my humming. I was so floored when she asked me to stop, never thought humming could be annoying to other people.
And Moon, I sometimes feel that people don't get my utter unselfconscious good self! What a waste and a pity..
I think we should try not to feel too sensitive about our doings. People can get to love our quirkiness.

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